MUAHAHAHA XD...oh gosh..i nEEdded to make this post after reading something online..XD
now...who on this earth, decides who goes on kouhaku at the end of the year ? :D
ok firstly...kouhaku...ahha..HAHA i had nEVER heard of this word until two years ago..yes..out of the 60 over years it has been on..it did not know that this program exsited ...do you blame me ? no pleaze...i was not a crazy fangirl only until about 2 years ago..so yeap i did not know about this show and the prestigeousness of it...
but the first year i was an arashi fan and it was the end of the year..i saw some list..and some grumblings and some ppl saying oh arashi did not make it and what so ever...and then reasons like oh but anyway the show is not so great and glorious anymore...( i love how we make excuses when we do not get what we want...but i guess its human nature...^_^) so anyway...yeap so that was about 2-2and a half years ago...THEN suddenly they were on last year and it was a HUGEEEEEEEE thing...of course a thousand and one ppl said WOW YEY they deserve it...and a thousand and one ppl said..WHAT they dont deserve to be there...MY GROUP IS BETTER....then we have NYC who appear out of new york city and get to be on the show for whatever reason was given...( i really dont know why ANY japanese would want to claim they are new york city boys when they are clearly from japan) ...but ANYWAY................so there has this LONGggggggg battle on WHO DESERVES to be on and DOES NOT DESERVE....
so my question is................................what is the actual criteria ? O_O....
this arguement is ESPECIALLY prominent in the JnA fandom...like NEWS and KT and sempais and kouhais and many other solo and groups...
SOooooo...lets see what ppl say :D i was reading aramatheydidnt..yes that aweful place...why do i read the comments...mind you not all..but i read some because i need inspiration to know what to write...i write when i am emotional especially irritated :D the thoughts flow better and my logic opens up then :D....yes i am dumb half the time..as i dont want to write my comments THERE..i decide to write them on my personal space ^^v.........so without bashing anyone...i am just going to be ..well try to be absolutely unbiased and just give a report on the reasons ppl give..i will give my opinion in the end...but thats just my thoughts....
edited on 22/11/2010
WARNING !!!!THESE ARE ALL MY OWN PERSONAL BIASED OPINIONS AND SHOULD NOt BE TAKEN AS THE FACT....just my own observations, and deductions....you most likely will not agree with me on everything..
ok here i am back...because of this horrible sore throat that has come up...i am going to write this instead of doing anything else...
So these are the reasons i can roughly gather on why certain groups have been chosen in the past and present to appear on this prestigeous show
so firstly
longevity+legacy
i Think this is a very important factor when you look at kouhaku as a whole. Ppl who appear there have a sense of longevity in the industry. they might not be famous singers now but they are ever greens..meaning their names have lived on and they were and still are famous...this could just SIMPLY be due to their artistry ...just like how painters can be brillliant and skillfull, so can singers like mr children, ikimonogakari, and ALL THe enka singers..including jero...so seriously if you are talented...JUST TALENTED be it in song writing/performance..and you are an ARTIST...you may get a chance to be on.....oh and this point. this links MUCH to the second point and thus i will link it here...
contribution to Japanese culture
When a group/ solo/ idol has contributed something to the japanese society, be it in education, economic, social and cultural, there is a higher chance that they will be chosen to perform on this show. OH and almost forgot. if they have contributed to the music industy..they can either be the first successful pioneer in techo-pop aka perfume( PLEASE NOTE..FIRST SUCCESSFUL...as a key word) which means it reflected on sales and other social phenomeons that could have taken place after that i.e the sprouting of new artsit who took on similar music genres. so this will be very significant. What an artist could contribute might be a new movement of how future artist behaves or how they mould themselves..it could be anything but it has to be noticable. When an artist becomes part of the music culture.and later part of society as a whole its possible that they will be noticed and since the society relates to them, there is a higher chance that NHK will choose you..remember that at the end of the day ppl ( which is the whole world who has NHK esp the japanese crowd) must be able to relate to you/ know you or at least feel you deserve to be there for something you have contributed to them. I dont think this means that you have to have great physical sales, even online sales, or just the ripple effect of your presence might land you on the show. so yes sales is NOT everything..i bet its not...its just a factor that will help you ...
internationality
Now you would have noticed that this show is shown world wide SO OF COURSE the more internationally known you are..be it due to how long you have been in the music scene or how much you sold or the culture you have changed, there would be a higher likelihood you would be chosen as not just ppl in Japan will be watching. AND we know that over seas artist have been invited and asked to perform on the show even though their impact in Japan might not be that great, because of their internationality, they are also invited. which makes sense to a certain extent because hey, since they are internationally famous, its ok to let them appear. so these include korean artists and others from the Europe/Americas.
sales
now sales...haha oh boy.....this is a tricky one.........Sales is easily qouted as the factor to allow a certain group/ solo artist in.........and its amazing how we break it up " OH they had the highest sales for ppl their age group OR nationality OR for that week OR whatever they can come up with" so ...its interesting how we make our own reasons for why our group is better than the other...
as i said earlier....sales is an important factor that will be considered HOWEVER, if we were to think thats all they consider we will be so wrong..because if this was the case arashi would have appeared in 2008 which they did not...and AKB or TVXQ would not have had debuted on kouhaku earlier than arashi...either way its not sales..its not always sales...that is why tokio is also on..their sales are not too great compared even with their juniors and COMPARED TO kinki who i think only appeared once as a special guest and not as a permenant performer.......so seriously i think its not always about sales...angela aki is a beautiful singer with awesome songs, though she does not sell that well she is internationally known due to FF12 and hey she is TALENTED...
ratings
NOW this is important...because hey at the end this is a tv broadcast that would be VERY expensive and is using government/tax payers money since hey its NHK :D so this is importnat...but IF YOU THINK that nhk would just get any tom, dick and harry to appear, you would be wrong...its all i am sure carefully calculated...who appears, when, and for how long... if you are more famous, you will appear later, the in betweens will be artists both here and there..so yeap alot of planning....and hey if someone is famous now.......they WILL use them to at least get base ratings high so the rest of the awesome ratings will be added on by the performances....so yes ratings is important..BUT i am sure NHK is not stupid to anger ppl with their decisions ...
anomaly
there are some weird choices i would NEVER NEVER get....like NYC...I NEVER got that O_O..until today...i did not see why they got a chance to perform when i dont know what they contributed and the singing/dancing...the face ? i dont know...i have tried to make sense of it...that maybe its because they were the YOUNGEST group to erm. get one on oricon weekly ever ? i dont know...but hey we can make SOOO many erm titles if we want right...ahha...but yes i think there are anomalies...what to do ? they just happen......
THe JE BATTLE :DDDDD
ok the JE battle........oh gosh ....what amused me was that some ppl were saying that they did not think arashi deserved to be there....how their accomplishments do not mean much...and other younger JnA groups deserve to be on more than arashi chan......
so let me write for each group what ppl say about them...and my thoughts about it are in purple since i love purple...
SMAP : they deserve it/ they have everything , their legacy, ratings record, sales record for 2million single sales, .......ok i fully agree they deserve to be on....^_^ seriously they are legend...what i dont like though is ppl comparing them to arashi chan....*faints*...please...their awesome ratings was YEARS ago when the normal ratings never really went below 10% for prime time variety...and it was a time when cd sales were THROUGH THE roof...hitting 1million was NOTHING to many artist...it was a NORM...so seriously i think SMAP HAS TO BE ON...but please dont compare cause it makes you look @_@...
tokio: they have been on with smappy for a long while and they have their own legacy, ratings are VERY safe :D, record sales might not be that great , but they have soooo many tv shows both solos and group and they have been around for a long time in the music industry, ppl know them....i think for this group, the most important factor is that PPL KNOW THEM...either due to the amount of CMS or hostings or dramas, ALOT Of ppl know them and hey they are talented awesome ppl ^_^...full of love for everyone <3 i WOULD LOVE LOVE them to appear this year..and many more years to come ....<333333 ...i love their attitude to ppl in general, if there is a group you want to show to the world to represent our country, this is a great group ^_^
V6: hmm...they have not appeared before, if you look at their sales, i think many times they have sold better than tokio, dramas done by some members are very famous :D like okada kuns'....not many ppl have said much about them appearing on kouhaku but this is my 2cents worth: I will not say if they deserve or not deserve or whatever...i think they really hit their prime in the past...they would/should have been invited to get on earlier BUT....maybe during their peak there were many others who were better or many veterans were still around so space constrain...is it too late now ? i dont know...but i think their sales and even their ratings though are not as high as they used to be which is understandable ....i think its a bit too low right now...esp sales wise T_T....and even their impact on society ...BUT BUT....inohara was it him ? is now a caster on NHK...which is AWESOME :D and i think alot expected him to be the MC ...due to his seniority and his activites with NHK...i agree though that he will be a WONDERFUL MC :D !!! i think though as a group the dynamics is not like tokio or arashi, i think individually or in smaller groups they carry out MCs very very well :D ....hmm will have to see what happens :D
kinki kids: wow this group...many ppl say that this group SHOULD be on..they have the track record/ the visibility/ the sales/ the records O_O/ they aer well known....so why are they not on...some blame it on their own countdown which prevents them from appearing....their own concert...oh well...to me: i think they are definitly a VERY famous group....VERY VER Yfamous....their singles are so well known..ok their previous onces...and thus they did appear on before...should they be invited again ? Again i think space constrains.....seriously space and time...and again the JnA rule of 2 per show :D...so its a hard..VERY hard choice....esp when you have to consider their seniors first aka tokio :D
arashi: oh boy....will deal with this later.....
TnT : hmm.......no one really said anything so erm...i wont say anything either...as an individual. takki is the golden boy of JnA of the golden junior era....as a group...i think ...to be frank...nothing memorable...and thus..yup...i dont think they would appear...any time soon..but we dont know about the future...^_^
K8, NEWS and KATTUN
so i decided to do this ALL together since i was reading this little tiff...about how kt deserved to be on this year because they went through alot with jin leaving....OK firstly i think this is not a good excuse....all the groups have dealt with hardship ...just different types...and K8 and news had it worse than Kt..with them being forced to go on hiatus because of one or two band mates...and then just losing your member without any choice on both sides...there is no such thing as who suffered more...just different types of it....then we look at sales....this is ANOTHER bad reason to say one group deserves better.....like KT, i know they got top before...and they sold a million single before...but please remember there were 7 editions.....HOW ON EARTH can you compare fairly...and sales wise K8 is doing better than kt now...........
then we have k8 fans who have said that k8 has alot of shows and should be well known to the public and thus should be given a chance.....and their dvd topped in 2008....again please note the amount of editions and again....the problem for k8 about being noticed is that they are very famous i am sure in kansai but everywhere else in japan ? is this also the case ? i dont really think so.....only recently did one of their shows start to air on prime time kanto ...but its ratings are not relaly that great.....so far below 8%...so i think it will be hard for them....BUT we dont know about the future...things may change and they might appear one day....
In News sadly i think pi carries alot of the group ...as in....ppl really only see him in the group...the rest ...i think until you really get to know them, you will not notice them ....but sales ( which is understandable cause they only release 2 versions WITHOUT making) are a bit on the low side and well they do not have a permanent show....yes Pi has good drama ratings..but he is the only one in the group...very unbalanced.....
Kattun..had a hard year this year...well since jin decided to follow his heart...( i hope)...i would agree that they have contributed a certain extent to the music scene but because of all the mess and disunity that was shown through out the year with group members ( jin vs kattun)...i dont know if this is a side that NHK would want to show...when a group goes through breakup...espcially after they were famous...i think NHK would think twice...SMAP lost one member too..but that was before they hit their peak...and though they fought offstage, on stage...pros!.....hopefully kattun will have a chance int he future too ! they are still young...so much ahead...no one knows where the future goes anyway...
HSJ and NYC
i wont even consider them because...hey they are way to young...just debuted...thats all...
why arashi being the host this year is O_O...
i think there is little doubt that arashi chan has had a great year, from ratings improvement to awesome sails and more importantly other activities that sho that they are trying to give back to soceity. Of course there will always be those who do not see it or would not want to se it.. there will always be those who would want to compare them unfairly with others just to put their efforts down... many of these ppl do not note context and the value of what has been done by them. ..but then again i might have done the same thing to other groups...
but whatever it is. Arashi really earned their place on kouhaku ...being the MC is another thing all together....even they themselves were shocked at the whole thing...even they were nervous...ppl then jump on and say that 5 ppl just to replace one person..tells alot about the group...so again many try to put them down saying that to get the same ratings they need to shell out the 5 of them because 1 of them wont be enough...sad...BUT i dont see it this way...arashi is STRONGEST when they are a group..arashi is MOST loved individually when they are a group...its just the way it is. people like seeing them together as a group...because that is their branding...its the member ai and the friendship that make ppl sit up, notice they are different and love them....you cant just have one person...people might not take it too well...
most fans are now afraid or excited or both for them...and its understandable because hey its the very thing critics will look forward to slam them if this fails....well its too early to deem it as a failure and at the same time its a bit too premature to say it will be a definite success...but from what i see i think MCing will not be that a bad problem specially if they are focused on the job...they will step it up...:D and do it the arashi way...anyway they have each other..thats their greatest advantage ^_^..and those ADORABLE mascots:D<333
will other groups get to perform ? i dont know...i hope not...unless its the veterans....ppl can be mean if they wnat to esp to those from JnA....and i think many are noticing that they are trying to ride on the popularity of arashi...as in JnA is trying to ride on it too and promote their other artist...oh well...i dont know...up to them i guess.....
ok thats about it....i think....gosh that was one piece of BIASED essay O_O...will edit it tmr..because my throat feels like crap, head is groggy , keep coughing
and btw...varsity fanclub's TC and david are so cute...but drew is THE genius ( i cant spell..*faint*)..but seriously this DREW guy is like a brain child to alot of pop songs in the asian region..sadly his group does not do too well in america compared to the rest of the world O_o...i think they are more famous in europe...this reminds me of how pink is SO famous and sells SO well everywhere BUT her homeland O_O....oh well...cool international band :D with really great songs ;D i personally hope he writes more for arashi chan :D cause his song writing skills + sho's rapping = EPIC :D !!! ....oh yes will write about this copy who and copy who thingy tmr :D ....seriously does anyone really read my rubbish other than the few who comment ? O_o...this following thing is like misleading...like 70 ppl follow but i really dont know if any of them actually use typepad...but whatever it is..this blog is mainly for my ranting so i guess it dont matter ;:DDD UFUFUF AAHAHAHAH....but for those who read ...thank you :D for those who comment...thank you even more...for those who comment and i havent replied...I AM SO SORRY m(_ _)m will do so soon tmr :DD !!! <3333 thank you for the comments ^_^<3
have a great week ahead and goodnighty~~
totwi~
I'm curious too about the kohaku thingy especially the case what type of standard one artist need to get in list of that event. I'm just guessing that the artists/groups that get to involve in Kohaku must be get some kind of approval by the entertainment there...well, Kohaku likely tend to leave controversy more with its hype. It made you wondering what is the meaning of the event actually is.
Sorry, Totwi-chan for not commenting here as I used to, but I do read yours when I got the times :D I hope you keep writing stuff like this tho. It always nice to see what others thinking about matters revolving Arashi or not other than just plainly flailing. Yeahh, don't let people's opinion get you, just write whatever you think of :DDDDb
Posted by: fitrin | 11/16/2010 at 06:14 PM
hey fitrin chan !! SO SO SO SO SORRY FOR MY LATE REPLY <333 i know..i am really curious too ! these are all my thoughts though...not the constructive truth ...but kouhaku is so complex...i think with it being a government runned channel might also mean politics involved...and not just power/money..well we never know :D hahaha
AND PLEASE DONT SAY SORRY....i should be thanking you for commenting !!! SO THANK YOU !
..its just that sometimes i just want to know if what i am saying makes sense ^^...or if i somehow or other step on other ppl's toes...which i tend to sometimes...sigh...<33....thanks so much dear !!! <333 GANBARIMASUUU !!!hope you are having a great week !
Posted by: Totwi~ | 11/24/2010 at 11:31 PM